a message to all new users of FreeBasic

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a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby ike » Apr 21, 2017 17:46

Dont even try any other GUI before you test-try FLTK. It is so good and simple. I like it so much. DJ (Joshi) did GREAT job (as always!)
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby D.J.Peters » Apr 23, 2017 0:31

Thank you for the flowers :-)
After I published it I was thinking or hopefully we get a new IDE every month.
Every new version will be better and better.

But sometimes hard work isn't enough.
(and it was hard work to make this C++ wrapper for FreeBASIC without any limitations)

Real life can be unfair. :-)

Currently it's weekend and I'm drinking my favorite whisky and look some cool "audio porn" on youtube.

Joshy
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby D.J.Peters » Apr 23, 2017 18:24

D.J.Peters wrote:... I'm drinking my favorite whisky and look some cool "audio porn" on youtube.
Kids don't do that.

O boy It was really fun but one glass too much !

How I get out of my head this thousand tiny hammers ?

Joshy
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby ike » Apr 23, 2017 22:40

And FreeBasic setup is misleading. when you install and click to explore you will click on EXAMPLES, then you will try GUI. There is 5 folders

wxc, WIN, IUP, CGUI, GTK+

New user will never try any other GUI. Using this logic: NOTHING ELSE CAN BE GOOD, anyway it shold be in here

So I spend a month learning GTK, and give up - I dont like it, then I try IUP - but there is no new version for FB of it. After that I try wxc - It is good, but not so good and I give up I did not touch FB for a year because IT IS NOT EASY TO make GUI programs

Then I come back to this forum I discover FLTK and WOW I was able to install and make first program in 5 min

So I am just writing a request to developing team: PLEASE CREATE ONE MORE FOLDER under GUI. Call it FLTK and copy just one file README.TXT
with this link
https://www.freebasic-portal.de/tutoria ... n-110.html

Please do it, many more new users will loose time and give up on freebasic
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby caseih » Apr 24, 2017 3:58

Sounds like a good idea.

Of course, the standard disclaimer applies here. FB is a free and open source project, provided by the maintainers out of the goodness of their hearts. It makes no claims at being complete. And the examples and .bi files it ships with were curated by volunteers. I'm not sure if Joshy has submitted his bindings file to the developers or not. Would be a nice addition to the FB official distribution.
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby jdebord » Apr 24, 2017 6:56

Incorporating the FLTK distribution into the standard FB packages is a very good idea, but it may be difficult to synchronize the FLTK updates with the FB updates ?
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby caseih » Apr 24, 2017 14:47

Yes unfortunately that's the big problem with all third-party libraries including GTK.

The other poster's idea, though, is a good one. Instead of shipping with the .bi files, just include a note that tells the user where to go to get the latest version from Joshy, and and the latest discussions surrounding its use on this forum.
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby ike » Apr 24, 2017 22:41

I was thinking or hopefully we get a new IDE every month


Without SCINTILLA component - no way!!
IUP for Freebasic looks ''abandonware'

With SCINTILLA it wouldnot be that hard
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Re: a message to all new users of FreeBasic

Postby Imortis » May 15, 2017 22:10

ike wrote:
I was thinking or hopefully we get a new IDE every month


Without SCINTILLA component - no way!!
IUP for Freebasic looks ''abandonware'

With SCINTILLA it wouldnot be that hard


Sorry for the necro-post, but I felt the need to reply here.


The example Fl_Text_Editor_03.bas has a really good start on your own text editor with syntax highlighting. It is not 100% complete, but give quite a good start. I am kind of eyeballing this for an IDE at the moment. While I really like the direction that poseidonFB and WinFBE are going, It can't hurt to have options. I am a huge fan of FBEdit, but it was Windows only and is no longer updated, so I might try to get many of the same features there in a new editor with cross-platform code.

I am terrible at finishing things so, don't count this as a guaranteed thing, but I have been brainstorming on this for a bit.

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