is fbc.exe made by gcc ?

acat1433 · Post by **acat1433** » Sep 16, 2009 9:27

1st,
is fbc.exe made by gcc ?
fbc is a compiler.
or,
is it made by itself?
is freebasic compiler made by freebasic compiler?

2nd,
the result "fbc.exe -r *.bas" is "*.asm".
so,can these "*.asm" compile by nasm?

3rd,
can I learn freebasic in reactos system?
is there some error when I do it?

er,my English is poor.It's not my native language.
-_-!!!

vdecampo · Post by **vdecampo** » Sep 16, 2009 12:15

FBC and all other FB programs are made using FreeBASIC, then the AS GNU assembler.

-Vince

TheMG · Post by **TheMG** » Sep 16, 2009 14:53

You most likely cannot use NASM as there will be little differences (there's nothing to stop you trying, though). It should be relatively simple to edit into something NASM accepts.

ReactOS tries to provide compatibility for Windows programs. It may work, but it not supported. If it doesn't work, try giving them an example program and see if they can fix it.

acat1433 · Post by **acat1433** » Sep 17, 2009 5:32

Thank you to all!

:)

I find that the JellyFB Editor can do well in reactos-0.3.10.

is The JellyFB Editor very popular in the circle as a IDE?

and,is it a open-software or free-software just like RMS saying?

cha0s · Post by **cha0s** » Sep 17, 2009 7:12

fbc is licensed under the GPL.

Jerry Fielden · Post by **Jerry Fielden** » Sep 17, 2009 15:04

JellyFB is popular with me.

JellyFish editors was written years ago as a commercial product by Paul Squires for PB. Several years ago it went free.

A couple of years ago Paul wrote a FB version. Lately he has renamed it to JellyFB.

JellyFB is Free.

acat1433 · Post by **acat1433** » Sep 18, 2009 5:02

So,is it meaning that JellyFB and FbEdit IDE Pack also released under GPL?
I find that the FbEdit IDE Pack looks like the IDE of visual basic.

and a funny thing.
just a "Hello,world!" program.
compiled by fbc.exe,the out file size is "15872 bytes 01.exe".
then "fbc.exe -r 01.bas" and "as.exe 01.asm" .
the a.out size is 586 bytes.
I rename a.out as a.exe
but a.exe can't run in WIN32.

jdebord · Post by **jdebord** » Sep 18, 2009 9:24

If I understand correctly, the compilation produces an object file which needs to be linked with an additional library to give an executable.

So, you have probably skipped the linking step.

MichaelW · Post by **MichaelW** » Sep 18, 2009 10:05

I’m not sure that I understand either, but I think the solution may be here:

http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopi ... 404#121404

McLovin · Post by **McLovin** » Sep 18, 2009 10:48

JellyFB is not GPL; it is freeware.

acat1433 · Post by **acat1433** » Sep 18, 2009 11:34

the linking step,er, what is it?
isn't it like "nasm -f bin myfile.asm -o myfile.com"?

the link,
http://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopi ... 404#121404
about the sentence
"I get a working EXE file, and it and the object module have the same sizes as those produced by FBC. "
So,why?
Someone tell me ," the ASM program is the most small."

is it meaning that JellyFB don't open its source?
what about "FbEdit IDE Pack"?

er,Maybe my problem is too much.
what about the future plan of freebasic?

jevans4949 · Post by **jevans4949** » Sep 18, 2009 17:43

Briefly a.out, or a.o will be an object file, the results of running the assembler against your source code. Since each line of asm code is likely to take up around 4 bytes on average, it will be quite small.

The .out file does not contain all the library files you need to execute. For this, you need to run it through the program "ld.exe", which should be in the same place as "as.exe".

The parameter list for ld, in the form emitted by fbc, is quite long and complicated. and the documentation is not too clever.

Sorry, got to go ...

acat1433 · Post by **acat1433** » Sep 19, 2009 1:30

I try "hello,world!" by nasm.

"
org 100h
jmp start
message db "hello,world！$"

start:
mov ax,cs
mov dx,ax
mov es,ax
mov dx,message
mov ah,09h
int 21h
mov ah,4ch
int 21h
"

then,"nasm -f bin hello.asm -o hello.com".

"hello.com" can work in win32.

and its size only "34 bytes".

Why?

Zippy · Post by **Zippy** » Sep 19, 2009 1:37

@acat1433

You need a response in your native language.

What is your native language?

acat1433 · Post by **acat1433** » Sep 19, 2009 1:57

My native language is Chinese。
er,I am a beginner.
I just learn computer one month.
Google is my savior to learn English.
-_-!!!