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FreeBASIC Dialect / Version Comparison

Postby coderJeff » Jan 17, 2008 2:13

FreeBASIC Dialect / Version Comparison
I generated these tables to help with identifying pages in the manual that may need updating. I thought to post them here though in case they might be useful to users wanting to upgrade their old sources to a more recent version of FreeBASIC.

fbc ver 1.06.0 (GIT as of 2017.12.28) - comparison of dialects
Features
Keywords

fbc ver 1.00.0 through 1.06.0 comparisons for single dialect
-lang fb
-lang fblite
-lang qb
-lang deprecated

More comparisons available here:
http://www.execulink.com/~coder/freebasic/compare.html

The "keywords" tables are pretty good size, so they may take a bit to load depending on your net connection.
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Postby stylin » Jan 17, 2008 3:54

Wow, great work, coderJeff ! These will help immensely with FBWiki.
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Postby VonGodric » Jan 17, 2008 10:34

18.4 - fb. Classes???
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Postby counting_pine » Jan 17, 2008 11:41

Damn, that's thorough.
Didn't know lang dep supported overloaded operators. Unfortunately, I can't test any of this out just at the moment.
At some point, I'm going to have to try and find out what the deal is with data statements, why they're so tricky.
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Postby coderJeff » Jan 17, 2008 14:15

VonGodric wrote:18.4 - fb. Classes???


Yeah, I toggled that by mistake. I guess I could have an indicator for partial support, or maybe put features in sub-groups, like for classes there would be access control, member procs, etc.

counting_pine, I have no idea about the DATA difficulties. But it would appear that -lang qb is now same as QB(tm), where DATA was only allowed at module level.
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great

Postby Dav » Jan 18, 2008 0:22

Nice charts. Helpful Info. Good job!
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Postby coderJeff » Feb 01, 2008 0:25

Some minor updates. Links are same as in the first post. Added a few new items and fixed a few items that were showing incorrect status. I know it's boring reading .. ;).

If there are any requests for new items to be added, that's no problem, just ask and I can put them on the list.
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Postby fabrizio » Apr 16, 2008 12:05

These comparisons are great. I wasn't aware of these when I tried a similar thing for a post elsewhere in the forum.

IMO they are so clear they deserve an important place in the Manual, close to the Table of Contents.

Also IMO the manual does not highlight sufficiently the different dialects of the compiler and their different aims. It highlights QB compatibility and FB comes out mainly as an extension of QB. For example, probably few, among the users of FB, are interested in "Differences from QB" (on the other hand the users of QB are surely interested in that).

Two (mutally exclusive) ideas:

1) The Alphabetical list form the ToC be replaced by the Keyword comparison.

2) Have different sections in the Manual for the different dialects: ie. in the ToC have three big links (QB , FBLITE, FB) each of them bringing to a page with the "mission" of the dialect and its own Alphabetical list (the three lists would point to the same keyword explanations). The FB page would obviously be the most comprehensive and actively developed.

Just an idea for discussion.
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Postby coderJeff » Aug 22, 2008 12:51

Updated the first post to include a comparison for the fblite dialect and up to version 0.21.0(SVN).

I also created a page with more information about these comparison tables here:
http://www.execulink.com/~coder/freebasic/compare.html

fabrizio, yes, some day I would like to add the dialect comparison (but not the version comparison) to the manual but I think it might be too much trouble to maintain directly - though I could export the data to the format used by the wiki and upload it. Also, if it were to go in the manual, I would like to put the test procedures (for generating the data) in SVN first so that others could generate the table for themselves should the need arise.

One problem is that the wiki doesn't support links in tables so at the moment it would have to be a plain table with no links, or use your #2 idea that you posted.
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Postby fabrizio » Aug 29, 2008 19:46

I agree with you on automating the update process.

May I express a dream? I also wish someday Documentation Dept. will be ahead of Programming Dept.
Also judging from some recent threads elsewhere in the forum, I suppose this would do good to FB, having an already planned direction.

Not being a contributor myself, I hesitated before posting this, because it looks like asking yet another thing to the Devs. Well no. Just a thought.
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Postby arenth » Aug 29, 2008 20:24

Yeah this was an excellent bit of info, because of this I found out that fb supports consts qualifiers for funciton parameters.
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Postby coderJeff » Aug 30, 2008 20:46

fabrizio wrote:May I express a dream? I also wish someday Documentation Dept. will be ahead of Programming Dept.
Also judging from some recent threads elsewhere in the forum, I suppose this would do good to FB, having an already planned direction.


Keep on dreaming. :)

Probably good practice in theory, but reality is that it is very unlikely that anything would actually get documented before it is implemented, has some testing, etc. However, it has been a common request that we (devs) produce some kind of road map for FB's future development. I think we have that in our minds always, but yet have to write up something formal.

And there's nothing wrong with asking for anything, as long as there is the understanding that there is a long list of stuff to keep devs busy.
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Postby coderJeff » Dec 28, 2017 20:48

coderJeff wrote:However, it has been a common request that we (devs) produce some kind of road map for FB's future development. I think we have that in our minds always, but yet have to write up something formal.


present coderjeff regrets that coderjeff did not leave any instructions for future coderjeff!
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Re: FreeBASIC Dialect / Version Comparison

Postby coderJeff » Dec 28, 2017 20:51

FYI, updated the top post to include updated comparisons. Was a good way to find some stuff that got added to fbc and never knew about.

If anyone gets a chance, it would be helpful if anyone notices something important missed and I will add it. I know it's a long list; the feature list is shorter than the keyword list if that helps get you motivated. :)

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