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FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby counting_pine » May 12, 2018 16:20

Tiny Core Linux is a very lightweight distribution. Packages are stored in their own archives, and after booting you can choose to load only the packages you want to use. Your home folder is stored in a tarball, loaded at boot and saved on demand, so it's easier to avoid accumulating cruft.

I've been looking into getting FreeBASIC working on it, for something I can keep easily stored in a VirtualBox VM for easy access.

I've compiled these instructions on a bare 32-bit setup of Tiny Core Linux 9.0.
They should even work from a live environment, but I'd recommend a hard disk install, so that you have somewhere to save the downloaded packages and FreeBASIC source/binaries etc.

Packages in Tiny Core are installed with 'tce-load -wi package-names'. This saves the package to the hard disk, loads it now, and configures it load at next boot.
Alternatively, to not load the package on every boot, you can just download the package with 'tce-load -w ...', and load the package now with 'tce-load -i ...'

Here are the dependencies:

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# Packages needed to compile with fbc
tce-load -wi ncurses5 binutils gcc glibc_base-dev glib2

# Packages needed to compile fbc and its libraries
tce-load -wi make linux-4.14.3_api_headers ncurses-dev gpm-dev libX11-dev libffi-dev libGL-dev libXpm-dev libXext-dev libXrandr-dev

# git, for downloading new source code
tce-load -wi git

# Command-line niceties
tce-load -wi bash nano screen


My install is in /mnt/sda1, which is pretty standard. Here's my code for setting up the initial directories:

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# FB directory
FBDIR=/mnt/sda1/fb/
FBGITDIR=$FBDIR/fbc-git/

# create FB directory, make it writable
sudo mkdir $FBDIR
sudo chmod a+w $FBDIR


Here I download and extract a binary package of FB. Rather than installing it, I set up a simple alias 'fbc' to the downloaded binary:

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wget 'https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/fbc/Binaries - Linux/More/FreeBASIC-1.05.0-linux-x86.tar.xz'
tar -C $FBDIR -xJf FreeBASIC-1.05.0-linux-x86.tar.xz

FBC=$FBGITDIR/bin/fbc
alias fbc=$FBC


I can now compile and run a simple "Hello World" app:

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echo 'print "Hello World!" ' > ~/hello.bas
fbc ~/hello.bas
~/hello # Hello World!


Now if I want I can download the latest source code, and make and test a new version of the compiler and runtime libraries.

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git clone https://github.com/freebasic/fbc.git $FBGITDIR

cd $FBGITDIR
make FBC=$FBC


I can now update my 'fbc' alias, and the new compiler is ready to use:

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FBC=$FBGITDIR/bin/fbc
alias fbc=$FBC

fbc ~/hello.bas && ~/hello # Hello world!


I can go on to test the new compiler with other make commands:

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cd $FBGITDIR
make clean-tests
make unit-tests FBC=$FBC
make log-tests FBC=$FBC
make warning-tests FBC=$FBC
(These may take a while, but are important for people who want to change the source code.)

Finally, I set my profile to set up $FBDIR / $FBGITDIR / fbc for me whenever I log in:

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echo 'export FBDIR=/mnt/sda1/fb/'        >> ~/.profile
echo 'export FBGITDIR="$FBDIR/fbc-git/"' >> ~/.profile
echo 'export FBC="$FBGITDIR/bin/fbc"'    >> ~/.profile
echo 'alias fbc="$FBC"'                  >> ~/.profile


And run Tiny Core's tool to back up my personal files to the hard disk so they are loaded at the next boot:

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filetool.sh -b -v


The final result, including all the package and source downloads and compiled binaries, should weigh in at under 350 MB.
The VM uses around 256 MB of memory at rest, so should comfortably run in 512 MB RAM.

I hope you find this useful.
I've revised these instructions retrospectively as I've gone along, so it would be good to see how someone finds working through them from start to finish.
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby coderJeff » May 13, 2018 17:37

Perfect. Exactly what I needed.

In my use, the ISO was always used as the boot disk, and the window manager is always loaded by default.
Here's what I found (commands executed at a terminal, may need sudo):
To get started in Tiny Core, assuming I have just created a new VM with empty VHD.
- Boot from Tiny Core current ISO
- fdisk /dev/sda, create the primary partition, write, and exit
- Reboot
- mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1
- mkdir /mnt/sda1 && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
- Reboot
- At the boot prompt, TAB, and append 'tinycore tce=sda1', this is the only time have to do this
- Reboot

I followed your instructions exactly:
But, to compile from fbc 1.05, I needed to change a few commands:

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cd $FBDIR
wget 'https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/fbc/Binaries - Linux/More/FreeBASIC-1.05.0-linux-x86.tar.xz'
tar -C $FBDIR -xJf FreeBASIC-1.05.0-linux-x86.tar.xz

FBC=$FBDIR/FreeBASIC-1.05.0-linux-x86/bin/fbc
alias fbc=$FBC

Writing to ~/.profile sort of worked for me: Tiny Core boots in to the window manager by default, and FBC, FBDIR, FBGITDIR, alias fbc, are not yet defined. After I exit the WM to prompt, they are. When I '$ startx' to get back in to the WM, they are defined, but not alias fbc.

I have a windows share on my NAS, with repositories. To connect to this file repo:

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tce-load -wi cifs-utils
mkdir /mnt/repo
mount -t cifs //192.168.1.1/repo /mnt/repo -o username=jeff,password=PASS,sec=ntlm,vers=1.0


Then in fb git directory, I can use my LAN repo to transfer files/changes between virtual machines:

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cd $FBGITDIR
git remote add repo /mnt/repo/fb.git


Looks like Tiny Core also has LLVM pre-built packages. Will try those next.

Thanks counting_pine!
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby lizard » May 14, 2018 14:53

If one wants to integrate Tiny Core in an existing bootmenu with Windows and few distros he can use grub-customizer:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26148&p=246179#p246179

this way:

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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby coderJeff » May 19, 2018 20:59

After I build the new compiler (currently version 1.06 using 1.05), I'm lost as to what to do next. I normally only ever use the ENABLE_STANDALONE=1 version on win (sometimes dos). I am not very familiar with the 'prefix' installs of fbc.

I am trying to rebuild fbc with newly built fbc.

Do I need to ./install.sh the new fbc 1.06 to use it?
When I invoke /mnt/sda1/fb/fb.git/bin/fbc it doesn't find include directory, for example File not found, "file.bi" ..., when trying to recompile fbc.

EDIT:

What worked well for me, is to './install.sh -i' the fbc 1.05 version. Then after building 1.06, use 'make install' to update the installed version with the new compiler.
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby counting_pine » May 21, 2018 12:43

Hmm, maybe it is necessary to use install.sh first. I can't remember now..

After that, I'd sort of expect install.sh to take the place of 'make install'? (I'd actually forgotten the latter existed. In fact, maybe it's been a while since I built a full FBC on Linux...)

I'm presuming it's necessary to re-install FB whenever you restart Tiny Core. Although once a build is done, the 1.05 binaries shouldn't need to be installed first.

Interestingly there was a package for FreeBASIC in TinyCore 4.x: http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/4.x/x86/tcz/
Associated threads: https://www.freebasic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18925, http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=11924.0

It would be interesting to see if a build for it could be automated. The package dependencies are at least a bit simpler now.
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby St_W » May 21, 2018 20:21

counting_pine wrote:It would be interesting to see if a build for it could be automated. The package dependencies are at least a bit simpler now.
In case there's any interest in it I could try to add a build configuration for my CI server to create nightly builds. (However, up to now the interest in non-Windows builds has been very low as it's quite easy to compile yourself due to the development environment dependecies being either already installed or easy to install)
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby counting_pine » May 22, 2018 13:40

I think it would be most useful just to have a package of the latest official release (and future ones too).
So if we can work out a make task, that would allow that, and would make it easy for you to build if you wanted.

This topic might be helpful for more specifics on creating extensions:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=18682.0

Looking at the package for TCC (Tiny C Compiler), we'd need to use /usr/local/{bin,include,lib} for the directory layout.

I worked out the list of basic dependencies it needs once its built: ncurses5 binutils gcc glibc_base-dev glib2

The package from the 4.x repos basically just contains 'FreeBASIC-0.23.0-linux.run' (I think that was basically a tarball with a prepended script), so it probably doesn't make a great model for scripting a package creation.
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby nimdays » May 28, 2018 1:40

I had a problem with ncurses for 64 bit
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.ph ... 35606.html
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby coderJeff » May 29, 2018 23:39

@nimdays, I had same problem with ncurses & freebasic on Slackware 14.2, 64-bit. Is it a FB issue? or an ncurses issues? The link you gave seems to indicate that FB should be linking with different ncurses library name on 64-bit? I don't know.
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Re: FreeBASIC development environment on Tiny Core LInux

Postby nimdays » Jun 02, 2018 3:28

coderJeff wrote:@nimdays, I had same problem with ncurses & freebasic on Slackware 14.2, 64-bit. Is it a FB issue? or an ncurses issues? The link you gave seems to indicate that FB should be linking with different ncurses library name on 64-bit? I don't know.


I believe this is ncurses issue for 64 bit. No issue for 32 bit so far from my machine.
The link is for TC 7. For the latest TC 9 is here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/9.x/x86_64/tcz

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