Say it ain't so.TESLACOIL wrote: Spelling is a funny thing, over time pedantry gives way to pragmatism.
what kind of 'pc' is everyone using ?
bad spelling annoys me too arg ,
bad spelling annoys me too arg , i do try
as my dad used to say " yes you are trying! " lol
back on topic
post up your pc spec's here.
as my dad used to say " yes you are trying! " lol
back on topic
post up your pc spec's here.
When I do freebasic programs a generally use an
Intel P3 Katmai 450Mhz, 160MB Ram, 4MB AGP2x card ...
For inet and stuff I use an
Intel P4 CeleronD 2.54Ghz, 1Gb RAM, iNVIDIA GeForce 5200- 256MB video ram
But my first "love" was an original Intel 8086 with 640KB ... long time ago... :=)
Then a CyrixMX2-233Mhz using 16Mb RAM with 2upto8 Mb shared with the video card :))
Today I develop an os(&stuff)for a mp4 player which has a Z80 (72Mhz) and a DSP (72Mhz) with 120KB Ram .... It's fun ! :)
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I also got a netbook :
Intel Atom N450 (1.66Ghz, 512kb cache, hyper threading - 2 threads),
memory 1Gb,
hd 160gb(150GB),
intel graphix media accelerator for mobile - intel GMA 3150(os can allocate up to 250MB of video, depending on application)
window7 starter (very good; the only thing is missing is win Aero and also it does not allow me to chage background ... but who cares about bkground ...)
it consumes 7-8Watts when programming
and 10-12.5 Watts when playing games or other intensive resources
(compared to a desktop 125Watts .... pretty good)
Intel P3 Katmai 450Mhz, 160MB Ram, 4MB AGP2x card ...
For inet and stuff I use an
Intel P4 CeleronD 2.54Ghz, 1Gb RAM, iNVIDIA GeForce 5200- 256MB video ram
But my first "love" was an original Intel 8086 with 640KB ... long time ago... :=)
Then a CyrixMX2-233Mhz using 16Mb RAM with 2upto8 Mb shared with the video card :))
Today I develop an os(&stuff)for a mp4 player which has a Z80 (72Mhz) and a DSP (72Mhz) with 120KB Ram .... It's fun ! :)
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I also got a netbook :
Intel Atom N450 (1.66Ghz, 512kb cache, hyper threading - 2 threads),
memory 1Gb,
hd 160gb(150GB),
intel graphix media accelerator for mobile - intel GMA 3150(os can allocate up to 250MB of video, depending on application)
window7 starter (very good; the only thing is missing is win Aero and also it does not allow me to chage background ... but who cares about bkground ...)
it consumes 7-8Watts when programming
and 10-12.5 Watts when playing games or other intensive resources
(compared to a desktop 125Watts .... pretty good)
Last edited by Mihail_B on Nov 16, 2011 9:21, edited 2 times in total.
Re: i would love to see
Sorry I wasn't around for the past two weeks, I will run these tests when i get home in few hours.TESLACOIL wrote:@KaraK & agamemnus
i would love to see what mips / times you get with my benchmark prog
try speed test 8 and mcorespawn ( see tips n tricks section ) they are on page 2 of my post
KaraK, i was thinking of treating myself to a new system with a spec just like yours, id love to know in advance the speed gain i would be getting with an AMD Phenom II X4 955 system
you might be the first to crack the 1000 mips barrier, i got my fingers crossed
agamemnus Im doing a feasibility study ref making my AI project portable , something like 2x Asus G73SW and 10 atom net books could do the trick (ill need to get a grant or sponsorship for this though) your test results would realy help me nail the numbers down
http://asimov1.wikispaces.com/Dalek
agamemnus (ive got an atom my self) i just need the numbers for a high end laptop. yours has been burned in and subjected to real word usage/background loads ill be able to factor in aging , variability during bursts of activity etc & compensate for this in advance codewise
i would be very grateful if you both did these tests
edit:
test results on my secondary system
AMD Phenom II X4 940 (4 cores @ 3.0GHz)
RAM: 2 GB
Graphics: MSI nVidia GeForce 8600 GT
Running Windows XP 32bits with some Virtual Machines
speed test 8 results (set the process to real time priority in the task manager):
Free memory: 1235 megabytes
starting Free Basic speed test......approx 10 seconds
start 184012.6958633011 184012.6959177773
finish 184019.2043720641 184019.2044178799
time = 6.508508762985002 i = 2500000001 how many loops done in total
mips = 384.1125657259503 FreeBASIC for next loop instructions X 1 million
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multicore speed test 1:
1896
1876
1864
1848
thanx for posting your results
thanx for posting your results 1850 mips is the best result seen so far
note
mips in this case = millions of free basic for next loops
a real word number reflecting how many simple instructions your FB code can do per second
im looking at getting a new pc and wanted an idea of how it will perform doing simple serial computation. i should be able to run 4 x simple FB progs on the one new quad core machine and get at least the same speed as i do on 4 fast individual P4s type machines.
1800+ is 10x faster than the 180mips my single core P4 celeron 2600core can do
closing all services and running the celeron 2600 at realtime using speedtest 8 . cold computer etc etc the max i ever got was 204 mips
core v core your pc is still twice as fast as my creaking celeron , the better cache , faster loading memory , architecture etc all boosting the speed a bit above and beyond the GHz speed difference
i have also havea newer socket 750 2ghz celeron that hits around 235mips in speed test 8
and an ancient 2.6ghz athlon that hits around 315mips in speed test 8
& 365mips in the muticore test even though its just a single core
365 x 4 = 1460 & still falls noticeably short of the 1850mips you get on your quadcore machine. So i can think 4x speed with a bit left in reserve
value for money , an ancient second hand Pentium still gives you noticeably more mips per $ than a brand new modern mid-range machine.....that's the down side of moores law flattening off for serial computation
but unless you enjoy playing crysis at 1 frame a second , spending a few extra bucks on compressing computer power into one machine is still worth while
summary
it looks as though modern pc architecture provides up to 50% speed boost above and beyond the ghz speed of its cores
ghz x cores x modern architecture boost of up to 50%
eg new machine 3ghz x 4 cores x 1.5 = 18 ..add two zeros to get your mips
older architecture =
ghz x cores x (+/- 25% ) depending on the age of the architecture
eg old celeron 2.6 x 1 x 75% = 19.5 (real-time) ..add two zeros to get your mips
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
AMD Phenom II X4 940 = benchmark @ 3681
is 10 times faster than my celeron2600= benchmark @ 365
in this simple real world for next loop test when all the cores are fully loaded...but only 2 1/2 times as fast core for core
My network why the obsession with numbers and tests ?
i think ill keep the 4 best Pentium clunkers and buy 2 new quad core machines thus giving my network the serial computational power of 12 hot Pentium 4s while leaving some essential headroom for parallel computation.
The network will have a real world effective computation of about 50Ghz of old fashioned computing power. (although the raw numbers only add to 36ghz) The true parallelism aspect gives it a big kick. 50ghz being the minimum real word computational power i require for my project....which is a bit of a stretch to achieve if you have mislaid that winning lottery ticket lol
note
mips in this case = millions of free basic for next loops
a real word number reflecting how many simple instructions your FB code can do per second
im looking at getting a new pc and wanted an idea of how it will perform doing simple serial computation. i should be able to run 4 x simple FB progs on the one new quad core machine and get at least the same speed as i do on 4 fast individual P4s type machines.
1800+ is 10x faster than the 180mips my single core P4 celeron 2600core can do
closing all services and running the celeron 2600 at realtime using speedtest 8 . cold computer etc etc the max i ever got was 204 mips
core v core your pc is still twice as fast as my creaking celeron , the better cache , faster loading memory , architecture etc all boosting the speed a bit above and beyond the GHz speed difference
i have also havea newer socket 750 2ghz celeron that hits around 235mips in speed test 8
and an ancient 2.6ghz athlon that hits around 315mips in speed test 8
& 365mips in the muticore test even though its just a single core
365 x 4 = 1460 & still falls noticeably short of the 1850mips you get on your quadcore machine. So i can think 4x speed with a bit left in reserve
value for money , an ancient second hand Pentium still gives you noticeably more mips per $ than a brand new modern mid-range machine.....that's the down side of moores law flattening off for serial computation
but unless you enjoy playing crysis at 1 frame a second , spending a few extra bucks on compressing computer power into one machine is still worth while
summary
it looks as though modern pc architecture provides up to 50% speed boost above and beyond the ghz speed of its cores
ghz x cores x modern architecture boost of up to 50%
eg new machine 3ghz x 4 cores x 1.5 = 18 ..add two zeros to get your mips
older architecture =
ghz x cores x (+/- 25% ) depending on the age of the architecture
eg old celeron 2.6 x 1 x 75% = 19.5 (real-time) ..add two zeros to get your mips
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
AMD Phenom II X4 940 = benchmark @ 3681
is 10 times faster than my celeron2600= benchmark @ 365
in this simple real world for next loop test when all the cores are fully loaded...but only 2 1/2 times as fast core for core
My network why the obsession with numbers and tests ?
i think ill keep the 4 best Pentium clunkers and buy 2 new quad core machines thus giving my network the serial computational power of 12 hot Pentium 4s while leaving some essential headroom for parallel computation.
The network will have a real world effective computation of about 50Ghz of old fashioned computing power. (although the raw numbers only add to 36ghz) The true parallelism aspect gives it a big kick. 50ghz being the minimum real word computational power i require for my project....which is a bit of a stretch to achieve if you have mislaid that winning lottery ticket lol
Main Workstation/Gaming
Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.2 Ghz Watercooled
6 GB DDR 3 @ 1600 Mhz
Nvidia Geforce GTX 480
Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Kubuntu amd64
Secondary Gaming PC
INTEL Core i5 750 @ 2,66 Ghz
4 GB DDR 3 @ 1866 Mhz
AMD Radion HD 5700
Running Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Server 1:
QNAP TS-809 PRO Turbo NAS
Running QNAP's Linux based OS
Server 2:
Intel Atom 230 1.6 Ghz
2 GB DDR 2 @ 533 Mhz
Running Windows XP
Main Work Laptop:
Dell Latitude E6410
Intel Core i5 540M @ 2.53 GHz
4 GB DDR 3 @ 1066 Mhz
Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M
Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Vacation Laptop:
HP Compaq 2230s
Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 @ 2.4 Ghz
2 GB DDR 2 @ 800 Mhz
Running Windows 7 Home Premium x64
My DOS pc
Intel Pentium II @ 233 Mhz
128 MB SDRAM @ 100 Mhz
ATI Rage & Voodoo
Running Windows 98 SE
Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.2 Ghz Watercooled
6 GB DDR 3 @ 1600 Mhz
Nvidia Geforce GTX 480
Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Kubuntu amd64
Secondary Gaming PC
INTEL Core i5 750 @ 2,66 Ghz
4 GB DDR 3 @ 1866 Mhz
AMD Radion HD 5700
Running Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Server 1:
QNAP TS-809 PRO Turbo NAS
Running QNAP's Linux based OS
Server 2:
Intel Atom 230 1.6 Ghz
2 GB DDR 2 @ 533 Mhz
Running Windows XP
Main Work Laptop:
Dell Latitude E6410
Intel Core i5 540M @ 2.53 GHz
4 GB DDR 3 @ 1066 Mhz
Nvidia Quadro NVS 3100M
Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Vacation Laptop:
HP Compaq 2230s
Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 @ 2.4 Ghz
2 GB DDR 2 @ 800 Mhz
Running Windows 7 Home Premium x64
My DOS pc
Intel Pentium II @ 233 Mhz
128 MB SDRAM @ 100 Mhz
ATI Rage & Voodoo
Running Windows 98 SE
Results on my Main Workstation/Gaming PC:
Speedtest 8:
Free memory:-103 megabytes
start 26533.22677992876 26533.22700323552
finish 26537.98713504975 26537.9873547077
time = 4.760355120983149 i = 2500000001
mips = 525.1709035278188
Couldn't get multicore app to run in XP. :(
Might do a XP install to get the results... :)
Edit.
Installed XP here are the results from Multi Core Speed Test ver. 1
2100
2100
2100
2096
Speedtest 8:
Free memory:-103 megabytes
start 26533.22677992876 26533.22700323552
finish 26537.98713504975 26537.9873547077
time = 4.760355120983149 i = 2500000001
mips = 525.1709035278188
Couldn't get multicore app to run in XP. :(
Might do a XP install to get the results... :)
Edit.
Installed XP here are the results from Multi Core Speed Test ver. 1
2100
2100
2100
2096
ASUS g73jh laptop
Intel I7 1.6GHz 6GB RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870, 1G GDDR5 VRAM
Windows 7
http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Po ... ifications
Although I'm not a serious gamer, I really appreciate this thing, and make good use of every feature.
Intel I7 1.6GHz 6GB RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870, 1G GDDR5 VRAM
Windows 7
http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Po ... ifications
Although I'm not a serious gamer, I really appreciate this thing, and make good use of every feature.
Just been doing some research
The new Intel i5 2500K kicks a lot of butt for the $$$ (3.3ghz socket 1155)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
It scores a whopping 7253 on their benchmark & its rubbing shoulders with chips that would normally cost you jail time.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2 ... -review/12
Quiet PC
My mainstay , P4 Celeron2600 is running near silent now i dropped the CPU voltage a touch & snipped the fan wires and inserted a resistor inline to lower the fans speeds. pc runs a tad slower, but so worth it for the silence.
They have just started flogging Atom bundles at PC world. For 60 quid you get an Atom D410 chip + mb + 2gig ram + 120gig HD. Handy if you want a quiet second pc for your living room.
The new Intel i5 2500K kicks a lot of butt for the $$$ (3.3ghz socket 1155)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
It scores a whopping 7253 on their benchmark & its rubbing shoulders with chips that would normally cost you jail time.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2 ... -review/12
Quiet PC
My mainstay , P4 Celeron2600 is running near silent now i dropped the CPU voltage a touch & snipped the fan wires and inserted a resistor inline to lower the fans speeds. pc runs a tad slower, but so worth it for the silence.
They have just started flogging Atom bundles at PC world. For 60 quid you get an Atom D410 chip + mb + 2gig ram + 120gig HD. Handy if you want a quiet second pc for your living room.
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