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Postby richard14110 » Nov 16, 2008 23:08

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Re: suggestions

Postby h4tt3n » Nov 16, 2008 23:16

richard14110 wrote:Not to be negative, but looking at FB... I see...
1. A command prompt.
2. Small white letters.
3. No syntax highlighting

Please make FB more appealing. I expected FB to at least look like a word document.


well, not to be negative, try out one of the freebasic IDE's. FBedit for example is very customizeable, I bet you can make your code look like a word document in that.

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Postby vdecampo » Nov 16, 2008 23:31

Not to be negative, but looking at FB... I see...
1. A command prompt.
2. Small white letters.
3. No syntax highlighting


1. Yes. Whats the problem?
2. That is what command prompt mode uses.
3. Is it supposed to? I don't think so.

FreeBASIC is a compiler. Not an IDE. There are plenty of IDEs that you can use for FreeBASIC development. Check out FBEdit,FBIde, and more I'm sure.

With a little effort on your part, you will be coding in FB in no time.

Cheers!
-Vince
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Re: suggestions

Postby darryl seamans » Nov 17, 2008 0:36

richard14110 wrote:Not to be negative, but looking at FB... I see...
1. A command prompt.
2. Small white letters.
3. No syntax highlighting

Please make FB more appealing. I expected FB to at least look like a word document.

Also:

Try to make FB an Integrated Development Environment that supports Rapid Application Development.

1. FB needs a Graphical User Interface editor with many of the most common forms included.
2. FB needs a powerful debugger.

Online browser support:

3. Perhaps a strong Application Programming Interface to support applications made with FB, on a built-in server (as if they were java applets or flash objects). This would allow websites to have FB applications.
4. If people decide not to have an API, then at least have some codes that can be copied and pasted onto an HTML, XHTML, java, or flash editor of some kind. There should be FB applications that should not require any downloading.


This represents a lot of work, at least #1, #3 and #4. As for #2, i use gdb. It isn't pretty but it is very powerful. If you're using DOS there's always RHIDE's rhgdb debugger available from delorie.com. It may bet a bit awkward (seems variable names need to be entered all caps regardless of the case in the Watch window) but it resembles Borland's old Turbo Debugger in functionality and appearance. I don't use FB for Windows much so I can't speak for that platform's availability, but others can and seem to be happy with their editors and IDEs.
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Postby Deleter » Nov 17, 2008 0:49

I think you meant:
1) Fb needs more coders using it and producing useful apps
2) Fb needs less complainers...
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Postby Eponasoft » Nov 17, 2008 1:23

Do people forget, or do they just simply not know, that FB itself is a compiler and nothing more?
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Postby McLovin » Nov 17, 2008 1:39

I suspect that a lot of people find this project and expect it to have an IDE like QB45 or a visual designer like Visual Basic. They don't make a distinction between a "compilier" and an "IDE". When they get to a command prompt it can be overwhelming for novice programmers.

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Postby Pete » Nov 17, 2008 4:40

This is a very, very good point. If FB were more user friendly "out of the box," I'm sure that there would be a LOT more adopters, resulting in a lot more programs being released and a lot more activity in the community.

As it stands, there are no FB coders whose first language is FB. They're all people who already know BASIC, know about compilers, etc. -- and mostly because they learned on QB.

QB is outdated, but it is still the perfect beginners' language mostly because of the incredible IDE. Despite some valiant efforts, FB doesn't have anything that compates!
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Postby Antoni » Nov 17, 2008 10:51

The FBEdit Bundle is a package regularly updated and as easy to use as QB ide
http://cid-a71ec066eae89ef9.skydrive.li ... nstall.exe

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